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Post by Kyler Thatch on Dec 20, 2017 4:15:46 GMT
Random note, but I would just like to take a moment to acknowledge the most epic use of force lightning from beyond the grave.
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Post by japaneseteeth on Dec 20, 2017 21:20:08 GMT
"Burning down the tree with that dinky thing, you are? Show you how it's done, I will."
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Post by Applelight Limited on Dec 21, 2017 2:00:35 GMT
I love how cgi ghost yoda looked like the puppet from V and VI.
This movie seems to be really polerizing though. I’ve been seeing some crazy levels of hate directed at it.
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Post by japaneseteeth on Dec 21, 2017 3:46:34 GMT
I'm pretty sure they actually used a puppet for Yoda. As for the hate, people had so many theories about the movie that a big chunk of people were bound not to like some elements of it. It'll settle down after a while. I mean, I do agree there were issues, but I didn't think they were bad enough to ruin the movie. Also, Simpsons did it:
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Post by Kyler Thatch on Dec 21, 2017 4:17:34 GMT
Simpsons did what? What am I looking at?
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Post by Applelight Limited on Dec 21, 2017 4:29:08 GMT
They're scenes from the movie; Finn in a bacta suit, Ray's vision, Snoke's fate and Yoda's party trick. And I am actually laughing my ass off. Consider this stolen JT.
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Post by japaneseteeth on Dec 21, 2017 6:26:14 GMT
Yeah, the joke is that the Simpsons has been on for so long it's basically used up every conceivable plot point. So naturally it predicted what TLJ would have in it.
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Post by Applelight Limited on Dec 24, 2017 1:58:09 GMT
Does anyone else feel like TLJ killed off a lot of plot points from TFA?
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Post by japaneseteeth on Dec 24, 2017 4:03:58 GMT
Yeah, there are quite a few things that came across as a bit anticlimactic. The main ones are the fact that Rey's history is irrelevant to the larger plot, and that Snoke got killed off without us learning anything about who the heck he was. The first doesn't really bug me, since I think it fits with the theme of the movie of moving on from the old order and starting anew, but the latter is a bit annoying, if only since the lack of background on him kinda reduces the impact of killing him off. That said, I think they could still work with it. I think it would be kind of cool if Snoke sort of reappeared as the Sith equivalent of a Force Ghost. Except instead of a benevolent mentor, it would be more like an actual ghost, in that his use of the Force to cling to life is a sort of perversion of the power (that is, he's doing it not because he's accepted his death and become one with the Force, but because he refuses to do so and tries to keep himself around.)
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Post by Kyler Thatch on Dec 24, 2017 18:36:31 GMT
Oh yes, as stupid as Snoke's death was, it was at least entertaining in that technically, everything he was saying to Kylo Ren at the time was true from a certain point of view.
Seriously, though, it didn't really feel like Snoke was set up as the kind of character to be blindsided that easy, or that Kylo Ren was sufficiently cunning and devious enough to pull it off.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Dec 28, 2017 3:40:34 GMT
Finally got to see it with my brothers last night.
When Luke Skywalker went out to face those First Order walkers all by himself, I was half-worried that the movie would pull a cliffhanger like The Force Awakens and just end right there.
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Post by japaneseteeth on Dec 28, 2017 17:24:03 GMT
Well, it would certainly have guaranteed that everybody would see the third movie, if only so they'd know what to complain about.
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Post by Applelight Limited on Dec 28, 2017 20:17:39 GMT
I wonder if less people are going to see the third movie now. I mean, I liked TLJ but it seems to have somewhat derailed the story they were building up in TFA. I think that's the problem with changing directors.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Dec 29, 2017 15:52:43 GMT
I know this is anecdotal, but I saw people on TV Tropes saying they didn't know if they wanted to watch future Star Wars movies anymore.
Also, The Last Jedi had a big drop from its first weekend to the second weekend, which could indicate a lot of negative word-of-mouth. But there are a bunch of other factors that could also be to blame. It looks like the movie is (or will be) in the odd position of being a financial success, overwhelmingly praised by critics, but divisive among the fans.
Of course, The Empire Strikes Back was also really divisive when it first came out...
I think if anything's going to hurt Star Wars, it's Disney/Lucasfilm's decision to push out a new film every year. Because the pattern they're coming out in—alternating between new chapters of the main story and optional side stories—is flying over the head of a bunch of people who aren't obsessively following the Star Wars news. Just over this holiday break my uncle had to ask me where TLJ fits into the Star Wars chronology. And my mom and sister-in-law both had second thoughts about watching TLJ, since they hadn't watched Rogue One and were worried they wouldn't understand this one at all as a result.
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Post by Applelight Limited on Dec 29, 2017 23:38:30 GMT
That's not a good sign.
And that is an issue. A whole year latter my dad still asks me when Rogue One actually takes place. But this shouldn't be a reason to avoid doing them.
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