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Post by Kyler Thatch on Jul 30, 2017 1:31:20 GMT
The Praetorian Guard has all the cool-looking weapons. And it looks like Kylo Ren has a fan.
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Post by japaneseteeth on Jul 30, 2017 4:42:33 GMT
How else do you expect his cape to billow properly? Also, you forgot the prerelease image of Luke training Rey: The Yoda influence is clear.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Oct 10, 2017 3:12:45 GMT
New trailer.
"It didn't scare me enough, then. It does now."
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Post by japaneseteeth on Oct 10, 2017 3:35:40 GMT
Ugggghhhh two more months. This is gonna kill me.
Lots of interesting stuff there. Looks like Luke is pretty skeptical of trying to train anybody at this point.
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Post by Applelight Limited on Dec 7, 2017 22:33:53 GMT
One week to go! I can't wait!
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Post by japaneseteeth on Dec 8, 2017 22:36:28 GMT
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Post by Applelight Limited on Dec 12, 2017 1:47:42 GMT
Got my tickets booked! Gonna see it on Thursday with my dad and brother, then again over the weekend with my friends.
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Post by japaneseteeth on Dec 12, 2017 21:25:00 GMT
I might try to hit it over the weekend, assuming I can get my hands on some tickets.
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Post by japaneseteeth on Dec 18, 2017 2:31:14 GMT
I guess we should discuss here now so we can keep spoilers out of the main discussion threads.
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Post by Kyler Thatch on Dec 18, 2017 5:15:01 GMT
It's the end of the Jedi as we know it, and I feel fine?
I mean I'm moderately sure Rey is still going to call herself a Jedi, but I'm more definitely sure we've seen the end of the old dogmatic religion we're all familiar with.
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Post by japaneseteeth on Dec 18, 2017 21:47:09 GMT
Yeah, it's definitely setting up for the order to continue with the same name, but new management. It'll be interesting to see how Rey decides to develop it.
Also, I know people have given some crap for this, but I actually liked how Rey turned out to be completely unrelated to any of the existing characters. It emphasizes the notion of the new guard taking over, as well as the fact that another character related to the Skywalkers or whatever would've been stretching a bit.
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Post by Applelight Limited on Dec 19, 2017 0:56:39 GMT
TLJ helped to undo the problems with the Jedi of the prequels. It acknowledged all their problems and like you said, worked to wipe the slate clean. And it gave Luke a great send off.
This article I read really explained it better, but the guy had a theory that the ‘midichorlians’ were a pseudoscience used by the Jedi to claim a monopoly of the force. Maybe midichorlians are real, but they had nothing to do with how force sensitive you actually are.
By making Ray literaly a random person from nowhere and not mentioning the midichorlians they’ve returned the force to its roots as a faith based magic anyone can do. How it should be imo.
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Post by Kyler Thatch on Dec 19, 2017 3:39:27 GMT
For me, it's less about the midichlorians and more a combination of certain ties the Jedi Order had with the light side of the force. First part of it is how the Jedi monopolized the light side, culturally speaking. If you were a good guy who could use the Force, you were assumed to be a Jedi, both in-universe and out. This by itself is not so problematic (I mean, Jedi could just be the term for "good guy Force user"), if not for the fact that the Jedi Order was so strict and dogmatic, and if you stray from their very narrow path in any way, you're chastised for walking down the road to the evil wicked dark side. Putting these together, if you use the Force at all, then there's only way to be good and anything else means you're a despicable Sith or you will be at some point or another (I'd potlink that to No True Scotsman if this were TV Tropes). Bad enough as it is, but then on top of all that the Jedi Order have practices that I personally find disagreeable. For example, attachments being absolutely forbidden. I mean fine, I get that it's a path to the dark side, Anakin Skywalker was a big cautionary tale about that. But it's also a basic social need (I was going to say human, but this being space fantasy...) I could argue that by completely denying it, you just create stories like Anakin being lured by the Sith because of that need. And then there's the way they kidnap take young force-sensitives from their homes, because of course they must be raised to be Jedi and nothing else, tying back into my first point... So yeah, I didn't mean to start a massive rant, but I'll just summarize by saying I've grown disillusioned of the Jedi Order over the years. At least the version of it in Episodes 1-6. (I have different thoughts about the Old Republic Jedi.) Technically they're lawful good, but they're not without problems. P.S.: This article I read really explained it better, but the guy had a theory that the ‘midichorlians’ were a pseudoscience used by the Jedi to claim a monopoly of the force. Maybe midichorlians are real, but they had nothing to do with how force sensitive you actually are. By making Ray literaly a random person from nowhere and not mentioning the midichorlians they’ve returned the force to its roots as a faith based magic anyone can do. How it should be imo. Could you link to the article? Sounds like something I'd want to read about.
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Post by Applelight Limited on Dec 19, 2017 17:34:01 GMT
@ Kyler I think this article here. Rereading it, I can’t find the part about midichorlians being a pseudoscience, but I definitely remember somebody mentioning it.
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Post by japaneseteeth on Dec 19, 2017 21:24:42 GMT
Yeah, if the Jedi would've just like, let Anakin marry Padme or go visit his mom, they would've probably avoided a lot of trouble since it would've been harder for Palpatine to get his foot in the door.
As for the Midichlorians, I heard it explained that they're a symptom of Force Sensitivity rather than the cause. That is, midichlorians don't give you force powers, it's just that people with high force potential get more of them for whatever reason.
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